left undone as that "new york times" article that you just referenced so eloquently put forth the next defense secretary, if senator hagel is, in fact, confirmed, i hope that on day one he will immediately move to insure equal benefits for those serving our country. >> what happens if the supreme court acts against don't ask -- doma, rather, and -- rather, supports doma and if the right to be married is unconstitutional under the law? you helped start the ball rolling with prop eight. you were instigated the hiring of david boys and ted olson to litigate that. this is a real gamble. >> look, we have yet another watershed moment on march 26 and march 27th. the supreme court is going to hear the constitutionality of doma, as well as the perry case, which as you know is the prop eight case in california, and, look, it's my hope and, again, belief that that court is going to go where it has gone so many times before. like they did in loving v virginia or in brown v. board and erase these skrim other laws from our books, and i'm optimistic. look, the court in loving v. virginia in 1967 was 9-0. i a